Experiamur igitur, inquit, etsi habet haec Stoicorum ratio difficilius quiddam et obscurius. An tu me de L.

Idque testamento cavebit is, qui nobis quasi oraculum ediderit nihil post mortem ad nos pertinere? Et ille ridens: Video, inquit, quid agas; Videsne quam sit magna dissensio? Nec vero alia sunt quaerenda contra Carneadeam illam sententiam. Etenim semper illud extra est, quod arte comprehenditur. Et quidem saepe quaerimus verbum Latinum par Graeco et quod idem valeat;

Quamquam in hac divisione rem ipsam prorsus probo, elegantiam desidero. Hoc etsi multimodis reprehendi potest, tamen accipio, quod dant. Nulla erit controversia. Legimus tamen Diogenem, Antipatrum, Mnesarchum, Panaetium, multos alios in primisque familiarem nostrum Posidonium. Stoicos roga. Dicet pro me ipsa virtus nec dubitabit isti vestro beato M. Verum tamen cum de rebus grandioribus dicas, ipsae res verba rapiunt; Eademne, quae restincta siti? Sed ne, dum huic obsequor, vobis molestus sim.

Quos quidem tibi studiose et diligenter tractandos magnopere censeo. Quod quidem iam fit etiam in Academia. Id enim volumus, id contendimus, ut officii fructus sit ipsum officium. Hunc vos beatum; An eum discere ea mavis, quae cum plane perdidiceriti nihil sciat? Verum esto: verbum ipsum voluptatis non habet dignitatem, nec nos fortasse intellegimus. Quae similitudo in genere etiam humano apparet. Quas enim kakaw Graeci appellant, vitia malo quam malitias nominare. Ut necesse sit omnium rerum, quae natura vigeant, similem esse finem, non eundem. Idemque diviserunt naturam hominis in animum et corpus. Sed in rebus apertissimis nimium longi sumus.

Graecum enim hunc versum nostis omnes-: Suavis laborum est praeteritorum memoria. Quo modo autem philosophus loquitur? Quam ob rem tandem, inquit, non satisfacit? Cur id non ita fit?

Sed haec omittamus; Familiares nostros, credo, Sironem dicis et Philodemum, cum optimos viros, tum homines doctissimos. Te enim iudicem aequum

puto, modo quae dicat ille bene noris. Ex quo, id quod omnes expetunt, beate vivendi ratio inveniri et comparari potest. Tu enim ista lenius, hic Stoicorum more nos vexat. Quae quidem sapientes sequuntur duce natura tamquam videntes; Quia nec honesto quic quam honestius nec turpi turpius. Nihil est enim, de quo aliter tu sentias atque ego, modo commutatis verbis ipsas res conferamus. Stuprata per vim Lucretia a regis filio testata civis se ipsa interemit.

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Sed haec omittamus; Quis enim est, qui non videat haec esse in natura rerum tria? Ea possunt paria non esse. Alterum significari idem, ut si diceretur, officia media omnia aut pleraque servantem vivere. Nam, ut sint illa

vendibiliora, haec uberiora certe sunt. Sic, et quidem diligentius saepiusque ista loquemur inter nos agemusque communiter. Contemnit enim disserendi elegantiam, confuse loquitur.

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Quam ob rem tandem, inquit, non satisfacit? Quasi vero, inquit, perpetua oratio rhetorum solum, non etiam philosophorum sit. Quid enim me prohiberet Epicureum esse, si probarem, quae ille diceret?

Animi enim quoque dolores percipiet omnibus partibus maiores quam corporis. An me, inquam, nisi te audire vellem, censes haec dicturum fuisse? Eaedem enim utilitates poterunt eas labefactare atque pervertere. Plane idem, inquit, et maxima quidem, qua fieri nulla maior potest. Longum est enim ad omnia respondere, quae a te dicta sunt. Si enim, ut mihi quidem videtur, non explet bona naturae voluptas, iure praetermissa est;

Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Que Manilium, ab iisque M. Est enim tanti philosophi tamque nobilis audacter sua decreta defendere. Facillimum id quidem est, inquam. At hoc in eo M. Quid est enim aliud esse versutum?